Comments for Atheism Network https://www.atheismnetwork.org Analysis, discussions, essays, media links, news, forums, and website links. Tue, 24 Jul 2012 11:27:31 +0000 hourly 1 Comment on A Business in Charity Clothing by litesp33d https://www.atheismnetwork.org/2012/06/21/business-in-charity-clothing/comment-page-1/#comment-3847 litesp33d Tue, 24 Jul 2012 11:27:31 +0000 https://www.atheismnetwork.org/?p=1135#comment-3847 All religions are businesses. That is the real reason they are so anti atheism. It is not about belief because if you truly believe your religion is the correct one what should it matter what anyone else thinks. It is not about numbers (yet, but we are getting there) as there are still more followers than atheists. It is about money because if you don't believe or more realistically you have come to understand there is nothing there why would you want to give them your money. And don't kid yourself they are not bothered. They are because we are at the tipping point. All religions are in decline. We just have to convince the millions of non believing Muslims that it is OK. All religions are businesses. That is the real reason they are so anti atheism. It is not about belief because if you truly believe your religion is the correct one what should it matter what anyone else thinks. It is not about numbers (yet, but we are getting there) as there are still more followers than atheists.

It is about money because if you don’t believe or more realistically you have come to understand there is nothing there why would you want to give them your money. And don’t kid yourself they are not bothered. They are because we are at the tipping point. All religions are in decline. We just have to convince the millions of non believing Muslims that it is OK.

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Comment on What the Higgs boson shows about rationality by Atheist de Egypt https://www.atheismnetwork.org/2012/07/04/what-the-higgs-boson-shows-about-rationality/comment-page-1/#comment-3846 Atheist de Egypt Thu, 05 Jul 2012 23:19:23 +0000 https://www.atheismnetwork.org/?p=1143#comment-3846 It shows that no matter what science achieves and proves, there will always be idiots still believing in ancient mythology and killing one another over it; hopefully in time those morons will be eliminated to the equivalent of those believing in Santa. It shows that no matter what science achieves and proves, there will always be idiots still believing in ancient mythology and killing one another over it; hopefully in time those morons will be eliminated to the equivalent of those believing in Santa.

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Comment on Consider Easter by Ben https://www.atheismnetwork.org/2012/04/08/consider-easter/comment-page-1/#comment-3845 Ben Sat, 30 Jun 2012 13:57:40 +0000 https://www.atheismnetwork.org/?p=1113#comment-3845 Joe, I'm an atheist, but your site doesn't seem to do much for the cause of the atheism generally. Nearly every post seems to attack Christianity or Christian beliefs with varying degrees of snarkiness. Atheists have no duty to disprove Christianity or point out its flaws. As I like to say, the universe simply is. Anything belief beyond that depends on the proof advanced by the believer. People who do not subscribe to those beliefs are under no obligation to discredit or disprove those believes. It makes us look motivated by spite when we attempt to. Thanks! Ben Joe,

I’m an atheist, but your site doesn’t seem to do much for the cause of the atheism generally. Nearly every post seems to attack Christianity or Christian beliefs with varying degrees of snarkiness. Atheists have no duty to disprove Christianity or point out its flaws.

As I like to say, the universe simply is. Anything belief beyond that depends on the proof advanced by the believer. People who do not subscribe to those beliefs are under no obligation to discredit or disprove those believes. It makes us look motivated by spite when we attempt to.

Thanks!

Ben

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Comment on The Bible Is Not The World’s Best-Selling Book by skywiseunlimited https://www.atheismnetwork.org/2011/12/20/the-bible-is-not-the-worlds-best-selling-book/comment-page-1/#comment-3824 skywiseunlimited Tue, 13 Mar 2012 03:24:48 +0000 https://www.atheismnetwork.org/?p=1044#comment-3824 Interesting points. It seems like my teen can quote chapter and verse from Harry Potter but can only guess wildly whether Moses is Testament Old or New. She goes to Sunday School every week, damned if I know what the hell they do there. Interesting points. It seems like my teen can quote chapter and verse from Harry Potter but can only guess wildly whether Moses is Testament Old or New. She goes to Sunday School every week, damned if I know what the hell they do there.

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Comment on How To Design The Perfect Religion by jeb https://www.atheismnetwork.org/2012/01/16/how-to-design-the-perfect-religion/comment-page-1/#comment-3822 jeb Fri, 09 Mar 2012 18:03:46 +0000 https://www.atheismnetwork.org/?p=1046#comment-3822 This is an example of what I would say would be the start to a perfect religion. It encompasses the tiny bits of pieces all together and has nothing to really disprove it except that it seems like a ton of work just for one thing: http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/forums/index.php/topic,21751.msg484309.html#msg484309 This is an example of what I would say would be the start to a perfect religion. It encompasses the tiny bits of pieces all together and has nothing to really disprove it except that it seems like a ton of work just for one thing:

http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/forums/index.php/topic,21751.msg484309.html#msg484309

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Comment on The Bible Is Not The World’s Best-Selling Book by Jake Wilson https://www.atheismnetwork.org/2011/12/20/the-bible-is-not-the-worlds-best-selling-book/comment-page-1/#comment-3789 Jake Wilson Thu, 26 Jan 2012 16:34:11 +0000 https://www.atheismnetwork.org/?p=1044#comment-3789 The article you have pointed to states that the bible is the most read book, however it completely ignores the fact that most who own a bible have not read its entirety. Which is a point outlined in this article. It would be irresponsible to consider the reading of a short passage of text within a book on the same level as reading a book tens of times over. Additionally, the article you present gives no measure of the uncertainty on its estimation, which in the scientific community would render it worthless. You seem to have missed the point of this article, which was not to provide accurate figures for best-selling books of the world, but which was to highlight the fact that some people try to insinuate a level of greatness to the bible that it does not deserve. The article you have pointed to states that the bible is the most read book, however it completely ignores the fact that most who own a bible have not read its entirety. Which is a point outlined in this article. It would be irresponsible to consider the reading of a short passage of text within a book on the same level as reading a book tens of times over.

Additionally, the article you present gives no measure of the uncertainty on its estimation, which in the scientific community would render it worthless.

You seem to have missed the point of this article, which was not to provide accurate figures for best-selling books of the world, but which was to highlight the fact that some people try to insinuate a level of greatness to the bible that it does not deserve.

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Comment on The Bible Is Not The World’s Best-Selling Book by David https://www.atheismnetwork.org/2011/12/20/the-bible-is-not-the-worlds-best-selling-book/comment-page-1/#comment-3788 David Thu, 26 Jan 2012 15:00:16 +0000 https://www.atheismnetwork.org/?p=1044#comment-3788 Sounds like you are doing quite a bit of 'estimating' and assuming. Here's an article where the author said he did research to get the numbers. (http://www.squidoo.com/mostreadbooks) Perhaps you should change the title of your article to "The Bible is Not the World's Most Read Book" so as to match the content...although it seemed like you were guessing at the number of people who have actually read the bible. Surprised to see so many assumptions on an Atheist site... Sounds like you are doing quite a bit of ‘estimating’ and assuming. Here’s an article where the author said he did research to get the numbers. (http://www.squidoo.com/mostreadbooks)

Perhaps you should change the title of your article to “The Bible is Not the World’s Most Read Book” so as to match the content…although it seemed like you were guessing at the number of people who have actually read the bible. Surprised to see so many assumptions on an Atheist site…

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Comment on More Ambiguity On Belief by Gary Berg-Cross (@garybcross) https://www.atheismnetwork.org/2011/12/23/more-ambiguity-on-belief/comment-page-1/#comment-3745 Gary Berg-Cross (@garybcross) Mon, 26 Dec 2011 21:15:33 +0000 https://www.atheismnetwork.org/?p=1058#comment-3745 Beliefs are part of an intelligent beings cognitive life. They may be based firmly on evidence, loosely or just on faith. When people argue that we are heading towards serious problem in climate change some see it as based on evidence and some say it is just an unsubstantiated belief. But u's not a matter of blind faith. Like evolutionary theory it is an increasingly supported hypothesis based on a commensurate body of evidence. "Plants earlier bloom times hurting some creatures" reads the title of a recent Washington Post article by Brigid Schulte. See http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/plants-earlier-bloom-times-hurting-some-creatures/2011/04/08/AF42He4C_story.html. The story goes on to describe field botanists' surprise that some flowers like “Dutchman’s breeches” and cut-leaved toothwort are blooming 2 weeks early. The culprit is consistent with a global warming hypothesis: "Bloom hunters like Fleming, who for 40 years have been tramping through the woods, roaming along riverbanks and scrambling over rocky outcrops to document the first blooms of spring in the Washington area, worry that what they have been seeing is nothing less than the slow, inexorable shift of global warming." Arguments about religious don't display this type of evidence. Beliefs are part of an intelligent beings cognitive life. They may be based firmly on evidence, loosely or just on faith. When people argue that we are heading towards serious problem in climate change some see it as based on evidence and some say it is just an unsubstantiated belief. But u’s not a matter of blind faith. Like evolutionary theory it is an increasingly supported hypothesis based on a commensurate body of evidence. “Plants earlier bloom times hurting some creatures” reads the title of a recent Washington Post article by Brigid Schulte. See http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/plants-earlier-bloom-times-hurting-some-creatures/2011/04/08/AF42He4C_story.html. The story goes on to describe field botanists’ surprise that some flowers like “Dutchman’s breeches” and cut-leaved toothwort are blooming 2 weeks early. The culprit is consistent with a global warming hypothesis:

“Bloom hunters like Fleming, who for 40 years have been tramping through the woods, roaming along riverbanks and scrambling over rocky outcrops to document the first blooms of spring in the Washington area, worry that what they have been seeing is nothing less than the slow, inexorable shift of global warming.”

Arguments about religious don’t display this type of evidence.

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Comment on The Bible Is Not The World’s Best-Selling Book by david https://www.atheismnetwork.org/2011/12/20/the-bible-is-not-the-worlds-best-selling-book/comment-page-1/#comment-3743 david Fri, 23 Dec 2011 18:37:05 +0000 https://www.atheismnetwork.org/?p=1044#comment-3743 Totally agree with your reasoning. The bible is fn boring and dumb. Greetings from David in England. I'm an atheist too. Totally agree with your reasoning. The bible is fn boring and dumb. Greetings from David in England. I’m an atheist too.

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Comment on Does Our Explanation Of Religion Compromise The Validity Of Its Statements? by Kathleen McCaffrey https://www.atheismnetwork.org/2011/10/16/does-our-explanation-of-religion-compromise-the-validity-of-its-statements/comment-page-1/#comment-3418 Kathleen McCaffrey Mon, 21 Nov 2011 01:10:38 +0000 https://www.atheismnetwork.org/?p=569#comment-3418 It is sometimes necessary to 'label' a belief or a mythology just in order to explain or just talk about it - I find this an interesting short piece of writing observing the link between religious people and non-religious people, I think it's well written as a starting topic - this area of psychology greatly interests me, hoping to find someone else who shares the same geeky interest as I do in the subject :p It is sometimes necessary to ‘label’ a belief or a mythology just in order to explain or just talk about it – I find this an interesting short piece of writing observing the link between religious people and non-religious people, I think it’s well written as a starting topic – this area of psychology greatly interests me, hoping to find someone else who shares the same geeky interest as I do in the subject :p

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